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Thousands of people enraged by power cuts during an extreme heat wave rioted across northern India, setting electricity substations on fire and taking power company officials hostage, officials said Saturday.

The impoverished state of Uttar Pradesh has never had enough power for its 200 million people — about the population of Brazil — and many receive only a few hours a day under normal conditions. Sixty-three percent of homes have no access to electricity at all.

But recent temperatures that soared to 117 Fahrenheit have caused power demand to spike at 11,000 megawatts — far higher than the state's 8,000-megawatt capacity — triggering blackouts that shut down fans, city water pumps and air conditioners.

Thousands of people stormed an electricity substation Friday near the state capital of Lucknow, ransacking offices and taking several workers hostage for 18 hours until police intervened Saturday morning, state utility official Narendra Nath Mullick said.

Elsewhere, an angry crowd set fire to an electricity substation in Gonda, 112 miles southeast of Lucknow. It took three hours for firefighters to put out the flames on Friday. Another substation was set on fire in Gorakhpur, 200 miles southeast of Lucknow.

Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Akilesh Yadav said officials were trying to purchase power from other states, though they were also facing shortages amid the intense heat.

Power was largely restored to most areas by Saturday afternoon, leading dozens of people who were still protesting outside Lucknow's Indira Nagar substation to go home.

Residents had been particularly angry about the power cuts after receiving reliable supplies through the Indian elections, which ended May 16. Since then, only some regions have been guaranteed unbroken power supplies, while others have received little to none.

The High Court in the city of Allahabad is now hearing a petition alleging discrimination in power distribution, and has asked the government to explain why some regions were allegedly receiving preferential treatment. Those regions include the city of Varanasi and the parliamentary constituency of new Prime Minister Narendra Modi, as well as constituencies held by Yadav and other top officials in Uttar Pradesh's ruling party.

Meteorological officials said temperatures would likely remain high through at least Tuesday in Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat, Delhi and other areas of northern India.

"People are advised not to venture out of their homes," said Lucknow-based weather official J.P. Gupta.

The Associated Press

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   Isn't it just marvelous that being in such an "exceptional country and all" we will never experience such a shameful lack of electricity no matter what a shambles our worn out grid is in. Just flip a switch and there it is, cool as can be. I'm sure that is because of the exceptional people leading the way and keeping the inferior ones cool  along with themselves. What a blessing to have been born among "exceptional" people and not among those clearly inferior and stupid ones in a foreign place like Uttar Pradesh where they don't even know a handle from a hoe. How dumb can they be? But I hear they're really clever at other things we would just rather not know about. Makes you wonder why they don't all  leave and migrate to some nice place like Australia or these exceptional United States like our  ancestors did. Of course I admit that  the ancestors of some of our most illustrious citizens were brought here kicking and screaming, but that was so long ago it doesn't even count. See how exceptional those descendents have become in this great land of ours. And please stop publishing so much trash about such no count countries. Who wants to read about all that when it's much sexier to enjoy yourself looking at pictures of good looking fruit. Back to basics EH?

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Isn't it just marvelous that being in such an "exceptional country and all" we will never experience such a shameful lack of electricity no matter what a shambles our worn out grid is in.

I'm not sure anyone has ever claimed that one before Big K. In the US all it takes is some wind and we lose power. Not from a lack of electricity but from the inability to distribute it. Two different things obviously.

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Just flip a switch and there it is, cool as can be. I'm sure that is because of the exceptional people leading the way and keeping the inferior ones cool  along with themselves.

I think the credit here goes to the engineers, making it so easy that folks don't need to even know what is going on, other than expecting a given result. And while engineers are a valuable profession, I don't think they qualify as "exceptional" in the sense you are using it.

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And please stop publishing so much trash about such no count countries. Who wants to read about all that when it's much sexier to enjoy yourself looking at pictures of good looking fruit. Back to basics EH?

Not sure I would consider India a no account country, just going off population and potential market growth alone.

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 Well just what is the "market" and the "demand" in a stupid place where 62% of the population lack running water, electricity or cash of any kind? Oh, I get it. You mean the "Middle Class", those with the up and coming aspirations to live like we do in an exceptional country saved by earnest hard working engineers on the job. So, little King, what will they save first, the demise of the  dollar as the reserve global currency, or the    fresh water necessary to preserve all life, plants and animals, or the oxygen that we unfortunately require or a temperature less than 120 degrees F ? I mean the exceptional engineers such as yourself of course, in this fine upstanding, ahead of the pack, exceptional country of ours?

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I know death valley caifornia is meant to be the hottest place on earth (FYI), but im not from california. Got that myth from the TV, american 'mythbusters' dont even know it gets 50C in other places too now thanks to global warming.  Just like I was born right here and learned about UP from the silver screen, ancestors came from there in the 1800's. I guess its imprnted in the blood believing in behaviour becoming of a babushka, like gypsy blood might necessitate nuisance even in nuance nonstop.




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I know death valley caifornia is meant to be the hottest place on earth (FYI), but im not from california. Got that myth from the TV, american 'mythbusters' dont even know it gets 50C in other places too now thanks to global warming.  Just like I was born right here and learned about UP from the silver screen, ancestors came from there in the 1800's. I guess its imprnted in the blood believing in behaviour becoming of a babushka, like gypsy blood might necessitate nuisance even in nuance nonstop.
   Definitely imprinted in the blood, Mr **** You Born In Australia.That is Mr. F.U.C.K. You Born In Oz. How are your so "Demure Darling Mischlings Doing"? Have THEY avoided being **** and hung yet? Or is that just waiting for them when they go back to learn of their BLOOD relatives in the "Old Country"? Either country. Take your pick. 
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  Oh and BTW' F.U.C.K.I.N.G. WITH" John F.U.C.K.I.N.G. Sharma transgender avatar,      I ain't no f.u.c.k.i.n.g. BABUSHKA just like you have NO F.U.C.K.I.N.G professional credentials.

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Well just what is the "market" and the "demand" in a stupid place where 62% of the population lack running water, electricity or cash of any kind?

India isn't a stupid place, and I can assure you that the social science of economics has applied for millennium, we just didn't really figure it out until recently. Might I recommend a local community college should you wish to pick up the basics?

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Oh, I get it. You mean the "Middle Class", those with the up and coming aspirations to live like we do in an exceptional country saved by earnest hard working engineers on the job.

Apparently you don't get it. And just because people can remain ignorant of what happens when they flip that switch on the wall doesn't make a country exceptional, it just means that they can worry about other things because they take electrical generation for granted.

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So, little King, what will they save first, the demise of the  dollar as the reserve global currency, or the    fresh water necessary to preserve all life, plants and animals, or the oxygen that we unfortunately require or a temperature less than 120 degrees F ? I mean the exceptional engineers such as yourself of course, in this fine upstanding, ahead of the pack, exceptional country of ours?

Why should there is a "first"? The world is a continuum of solutions, there is no need for absolutism in terms of solutions unless you are playing debating games. Fresh water is good stuff, just as is electricity. The dollar has no guarantee of being the world currency, never has. It is because it is better than the alternatives, and was agreed to by some awful powerful folks who cut a deal. So China and Russia want to do something else? Fine. We'll see how that works out, considering what good buddies those two have been over the years.

There is a reason why people flock to Treasury bonds, even as big chunks of the rest of the world catch fire, or act pretty nutty...from an American perspective.

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 Oh please do enlighten me Little King. You are such a nifty educator and I certainly wouldn't want to take on debt even from a stint at a community college. We can do tit for tat. You teach me what goes on behind the switch plate and I'll help you with your Ethics lessons. Turn about is fair play, wouldn't you say? Or doesn't that interest you?

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credentials or not, Sue hundred hyphenated husbands, any fool could tell by the way u cause nothing but trouble that your kids would b keeping your grandkids or great grandkids as far away as possibe from u as possible to avoid this same old  inevitable poison. The only relevance those gangraped girls have to u is how **** up they would have been if they lived. Could have turned out like u. Ms orwell "84 / victorian" ?



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credentials or not, Sue hundred hyphenated husbands, any fool could tell by the way u cause nothing but trouble that your kids would b keeping your grandkids or great grandkids as far away as possibe from u as possible to avoid this same old  inevitable poison. The only relevance those gangraped girls have to u is how ****ed up they would have been if they lived. Could have turned out like u. Ms orwell "84 / victorian" ?


   My my John, you certainly have surprised me with your evil heart. It must be the lonelyness eating  your whole being up since your wife kicked you out for being such a hater of women and thereby losing your girls. And there you are going crazy and feeding yourself all kinds of drugs as you try to hang on. And to top it off your wife has probably found a far better replacement or three or four, which wouldn't be hard to do considering what hell it must have been for her to be with you. I completely sympathize with her now if I didn't before. You have really gone off your nut. I would say "Physician heal thyself" but we know that is impossible because you are a complete fraud. And I certainly feel concern and pity for that lost boy of yours. I guess his problems reflect having had you as a father. Poor young thing. And having to live with you in some God forsaken place while you are stoned out of your gourd most of the time. I certainly hope she finds a way to get him back to safety also. And then since you probably won't seek any help I guess you can help everybody out and just make your final exit quietly.

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So u see your own heart as evil then. When u blame Joe for a **** obsession or GO for hiding his login and its only yourself doing it what else can it be? Making up crap about others wont change the fact you have the time to troll instead of bouncing babies on your bosom because not even your own progeny would want your pathetic past it prostitutes poison. And notice nobody has any pity because youve burnt every bridge.

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Oh please do enlighten me Little King.

I am not certain that is possible in the case of someone who doesn't wish to even discuss. You have a tendency to not respond to actual questions, scenarios or events in the real world but rather make grandiose claims that while they might have been applicable once upon a time, aren't even an issue nowadays.

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You are such a nifty educator and I certainly wouldn't want to take on debt even from a stint at a community college.

I have never been, am not, and will probably never be an educator. I consider it a character flaw, partially remedied by strengths in other areas, but still a flaw.

And I did not say anything about borrowing money to collect a college course, certainly there are other means of learning available, a college course would provide a reasonably accepted perspective on the topic, versus the more limited, usually wrong, poorly explained and even more poorly understood versions from bloggers and whatnot.

You would learn something about the basics of cost, supply and demand curves and how they work, during an Econ101 class, as one example. But when you read the gibberish of, say, an actuary trying to explain economic concepts, you would either A) think they didn't exist or worse B) didn't matter. And worse yet, you might learn nonsense and things that are patently false, and then PRETEND they are true, as in the case of peak oil centric rapturists.

For example, when I tried to provide a learning opportunity about Ugo's work, the nonsense folks have learned in the blogosphere is compared to the facts of the matter, and then the facts are found wanting..mark of the zealot for certain...and far too common to confuse blogging with anything resembling "learning".

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We can do tit for tat. You teach me what goes on behind the switch plate and I'll help you with your Ethics lessons. Turn about is fair play, wouldn't you say? Or doesn't that interest you?

We have tried to do tit for tat. You avoid anything resembling reality and experience and make up wild scenarios involving african amercians being locked up for things they do all the time...and aren't locked up for. I'll do reality all day long, but I don't do delusional.

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As MKing has pointed out our link from the Diner has been removed. Most likely a response to our thousands of redirects.
Link provided below also a link to my forum if for some reason there is a problem.  GO

Link to the Commons  http://doomsteadantidiner.createaforum.com/index.php

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     Young people drag fake cabbages in Beijing as part of 'Walk the cabbage' performance art, which is questioning restrictions on daily activities and trying to encourage thoughts on freedom. Alexander F. Yuan/AP
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