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Re: Now we can see the censors in action....
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2014, 11:38:05 pm »
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Oh, I'm not so sure I would confuse RE's capability for anything as remotely resembling a "captain"…. cheerleader in charge perhaps? Kirby sweeper salesman? Telemarketer?

No, not even remotely, telemarketer a more apt name; or the one I think fitting, Carnival Barker.

     
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2014, 12:04:09 am »
   Yes, Doomer Sport, there is a lot to consider in the Shawshank  Redemption, a very good film. So you see yourself a little bit like Andy do you, biding your time and forced to be complicit to gain your freedom. Well of course, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and to mix metaphors of course it's not all taking the high road as I am aware. Plus, you do have quite a sense of humor, and I have very little, although I did receive the blue ribbon for wittiest at my only summer camp when I was eight. Maybe it's time to quit being so dadgummed serious in the face of fate. What do you think, Sport?

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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2014, 12:06:16 am »
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MKING ,  Could you please put your post reply about David Hughes up here in the AntiDiner? I am speaking of the one you wrote today that RE so rudely trashed and didn't give anyone else the chance to see. Not that I would understand everything but perhaps we could have a discussion here or ask questions which we are not allowed to do on the forum due to RE's gargantuan insecurities. Why people could come here from miles around and maybe learn something for a change. Thanks for your consideration to bystep the fascist party line.

Would be interested myself Karpatok. MKings revelations about the Great Blowhard's hero Michael Ruppert were most educational. Ashamed to admit I was taken in by the MR groupies until MKing yanked my head out of my rear on the topic.
Have little doubt this one will be as revealing.

 It's just great to have a place to congregate again where both sides of a coin may be viewed and members can present ideas against the prevailing group think and censors in order to seek the truth of a matter.

On the other matter you mentioned Karpatok, about something seriously wrong in Baby Doc's Banana Republic; I sense it as well. The carnival barker has lost his con man grace and charm, he is just a hoarse, scratchy voiced, empty barrel noise maker now.
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2014, 04:03:25 am »
   Yes, Doomer Sport, there is a lot to consider in the Shawshank  Redemption, a very good film. So you see yourself a little bit like Andy do you, biding your time and forced to be complicit to gain your freedom. Well of course, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and to mix metaphors of course it's not all taking the high road as I am aware. Plus, you do have quite a sense of humor, and I have very little, although I did receive the blue ribbon for wittiest at my only summer camp when I was eight. Maybe it's time to quit being so dadgummed serious in the face of fate. What do you think, Sport?

Andy = Agelbert, WE are more like the grays kept in area 51 not human, but some say they saw us darting about the sky or hovering in a field. If they say we come in peace and have a message for mankind, get called crackpots and hoaxers a la Alan.

Probaly the girls voted you wittiest and boys voted you prettiest. I usually ask a favor as soon as I compliment a lady, but nothing I need right now. ;)

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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2014, 05:02:59 am »
 Actually Doomer, it was a girls overnight camp with voting girls. The prettiest part came later, quite a bit later after braces, much burning of the midnight oil and examinations of various kinds. Though I was pretty confident in the way I turned out I was always aware that there was always someone richer, smarter and better looking coming along right behind. My world was filled with such. Also it was stressed that with advantages and talents came noblesse oblige in return for the privileges earned and not earned. I was you see raised as both a Victorian woman of the nineteenth as well as a freer person of the twentieth. I am still attempting to integrate the precepts stemming from the enlightenment into the foundations of antiquity. I really know nothing of Ufology and probably care less as I already have my head threatened to overflowing with what is right here on earth right now. It simply has never struck my imagination to follow it as a doorway to anything important for me. So I definitely do not join you in seeing myself as a "GRAY". I have not watched television for about twenty years for much the same reasons. And I don't do favors in return for compliments. Sorry.

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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2014, 07:37:07 am »
  MKING ,  Could you please put your post reply about David Hughes up here in the AntiDiner? I am speaking of the one you wrote today that RE so rudely trashed and didn't give anyone else the chance to see.

No problem.

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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2014, 04:03:00 pm »
Actually Doomer, it was a girls overnight camp with voting girls. The prettiest part came later, quite a bit later after braces, much burning of the midnight oil and examinations of various kinds. Though I was pretty confident in the way I turned out I was always aware that there was always someone richer, smarter and better looking coming along right behind. My world was filled with such. Also it was stressed that with advantages and talents came noblesse oblige in return for the privileges earned and not earned. I was you see raised as both a Victorian woman of the nineteenth as well as a freer person of the twentieth. I am still attempting to integrate the precepts stemming from the enlightenment into the foundations of antiquity. I really know nothing of Ufology and probably care less as I already have my head threatened to overflowing with what is right here on earth right now. It simply has never struck my imagination to follow it as a doorway to anything important for me. So I definitely do not join you in seeing myself as a "GRAY". I have not watched television for about twenty years for much the same reasons. And I don't do favors in return for compliments. Sorry.


Come now you cant be certain. Suppose I were inserted in your class and you were kind enough to check my sore muscle after gym training, you might also let me copy your homework. But I relate to everything else you say which are wise words. I only have one story that really stands out from vague memories of a Scripture Union camp, where the battle between jesus and hormones was often lost.

I was 14 - 15 and a spikey haired lad a coupe of years younger was wandering around bouncing his football which seemed to be his only friend, I was with a couple of big goof buddies who called for him to kick it to them, which he trustingly did. They then booted the ball into the lake. That kid they called Buckley went on to become a legendary player and is now the coach of his club Collingwood. Whenever I saw him on TV I imagined him asking, 'who's laughing now?'

 

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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2014, 09:06:29 am »
Quote from: Surly1 on July 03, 2014, 09:01:57 PM

    Quote from: RE on July 03, 2014, 08:50:12 PM


     
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  Basically, on any website in the Blogosphere, if you don't Toe the Party Line, the Enforcers of Group Think rev up the rhetoric and Napalm the Living **** out of you, which basically is the Blogosphere version of PATRIARCHY in Action.  NBL is as Patriarchal as any Blog out there, it is Ruled Over by Guy as Pundit For Life and he has his own Goon Squad of **** Throwing Monkeys to act as Enforcers, just like Jimbo has on TBP.  the only difference here is political spin.

        RE
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    This statement will peg the needles deep in the red zone on some people's irony alert detectors.

    Less thinking, more doing!



It's an excellent demonstration of the "unfettered Free Speech" problem, which is that as time goes by the commentary turns into a sewer.  Guy's commentary is only different from TBP in political spin.  Zero Hedge commentary is the best example of this problem.  Sewers one and all.

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We tried this for a couple of years here, and were pretty succesful with it until the Trolls Gone Wild Week, ending an Era.  Your choice is between "unfettered Free Speech" with a Sewer Commentary or "Moderation" with a Commentary where you can hold a decent conversation on topic.
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Door #3 would be wholesale Banning of people who don't hold your views, Karl Denninger took that route, at one point Banning EVERYONE who even mentioned 9-11 in a post.

In the end, I chose Door #2 in the Blogosphere "Let's Make a Deal" Game.

NO F.u.c.k.i.n.g SHAME, NONE. Utterly Amazing.   ::)
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2014, 03:57:53 pm »
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In the end, I chose Door #2 in the Blogosphere "Let's Make a Deal" Game.

NO F.u.c.k.i.n.g SHAME, NONE. Utterly Amazing.   ::)

Yep. But it is not unexpected. Just as RE one day expected that North Korean levels of cult of personality requirements couldn't be sustained, and when someone lifted the rock and let some light in, it was expected that his reaction would be pretty much the internet norm of petty censorship and small minded tyranny.

I think it is suddenly going to matter less, my luxury time might be disappearing here in the near future. I stopped in at PCI in Santa Rosa last week, just to get a feel for their meat space presence (otherwise known as what looks like a decent sized conference room). Ever since David Hughes stated that his/their game was to knowingly misrepresent energy information to the gullible, it seemed like something I could become motivated to refute on a national scale just for the fun of it.

But after seeing the facilities (and already familiar with the quality of the ideas), it wouldn't seem fair.

But something else came up just at the end of this week, and it involves real opponents, with real experience, and the ability to think and learn as their ideas come into contact with others. It'll take 6 months of work, including a doubling of working hours during chunks of that time, and in the end creates a national product that can be used to match up against anyone. The prototype for management approval can be done by August, the science writeups and presentations will flow out between now and next spring, the prototype in final form comes out before year end with others following before the end of spring 2015.

I can maintain a double time exercise like this for 6 months...no more. After that I need to get out, go somewhere, forget all about whatever work is going on, etc etc. Spin down. Only done this like three or four times in my entire career, but as I've said before, I am where I am because I have a knack for recognizing that point where you go all in, become point of the spear if necessary, and bet it all on the ability to get it done. I would love to make a bet that within say 10 months from today, that work will be referenced by someone RE quotes or sites, it will be argued against or for, it'll be referenced by the Wall Street journal in one form of fashion, certainly it will show up at the national professional conferences, or doomer sites, or resilience.org or any of the happy mcdoomstere forums.

Bets require character on the part of both parties, and RE has pretty much proven that he and his sycophants don't have an ounce of that.

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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2014, 08:28:23 pm »
Yeah, I personally received my first "real" censorship experience last night. I didn't think my post had that much sting in it to send up a big red flag, but it's not my site or my decision. One word to describe this censorship is "PATHETIC". 

The post I tried to make (that was banned) was simply an update to let folks know that things are going quite well for me these days.  A company signed up this week on a BRAND NEW LEASE for a software product that I'm involved with.  Granted the the $700k annual lease is "below average" for this product, I still smell a  much "better than average" bonus coming this year...mostly a result of "other" events...not to mention some "hard work" on my part to make this all happen...year after year.

In general, I am very grateful that I pulled my head out of my doom-ass and realized all the many happenings in the world over many years have NEVER been that hunky-dory.  There's always been a layer of doom in any historic era.  One genuine professional I truly respect is Jeremy Grantham and he once wrote of a period of DOOM hundreds of years ago where the big fear was there would be no trees left...because they were all gonna be burned for energy.  If you read Grantham, you already know he sees a few problems in the future and these problems are related to resource limitations, but they do not mean we all need to start growing pecan trees in the back yard...or growing whatever the F.U.C.K these delusional people think we NEED to grow.  

I've grown a few Japanese maples on my property and I really enjoy just looking at them.  I especially enjoy viewing two of these accent-lighted trees while sitting in my ceiling-fanned screened-in porch  at night while sipping a nice glass of red wine.  In fact, that is what I am doing right now, typing on my tablet while listening to Steely Dan tunes coming through my weather-resistant outdoor speakers...and gazing at these beautiful maroon-leaf draped trees that also have a jaw-dropping base of blue rug juniper surrounding them.  Absolutely marvelous....and I planted and nurtured ALL of this.  I suppose I consider myself a "DOer" in this respect.

Far as saving the planet goes - for our primary vehicle, my family (just my wife and I)  have been driving a Prius.  It might not be perfect, but it gets pretty good gas mileage, and it's lot better than driving a Suburban or a Camry.  We've been using it five years now.  

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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2014, 07:49:38 am »
Yeah, I personally received my first "real" censorship experience last night. I didn't think my post had that much sting in it to send up a big red flag, but it's not my site or my decision. One word to describe this censorship is "PATHETIC".

The post I tried to make (that was banned) was simply an update to let folks know that things are going quite well for me these days.  A company signed up this week on a BRAND NEW LEASE for a software product that I'm involved with.  Granted the the $700k annual lease is "below average" for this product, I still smell a  much "better than average" bonus coming this year...mostly a result of "other" events...not to mention some "hard work" on my part to make this all happen...year after year.

In general, I am very grateful that I pulled my head out of my doom-ass and realized all the many happenings in the world over many years have NEVER been that hunky-dory.  There's always been a layer of doom in any historic era.  One genuine professional I truly respect is Jeremy Grantham and he once wrote of a period of DOOM hundreds of years ago where the big fear was there would be no trees left...because they were all gonna be burned for energy.  If you read Grantham, you already know he sees a few problems in the future and these problems are related to resource limitations, but they do not mean we all need to start growing pecan trees in the back yard...or growing whatever the F.U.C.K these delusional people think we NEED to grow. 

I've grown a few Japanese maples on my property and I really enjoy just looking at them.  I especially enjoy viewing two of these accent-lighted trees while sitting in my ceiling-fanned screened-in porch  at night while sipping a nice glass of red wine.  In fact, that is what I am doing right now, typing on my tablet while listening to Steely Dan tunes coming through my weather-resistant outdoor speakers...and gazing at these beautiful maroon-leaf draped trees that also have a jaw-dropping base of blue rug juniper surrounding them.  Absolutely marvelous....and I planted and nurtured ALL of this.  I suppose I consider myself a "DOer" in this respect.

Far as saving the planet goes - for our primary vehicle, my family (just my wife and I)  have been driving a Prius.  It might not be perfect, but it gets pretty good gas mileage, and it's lot better than driving a Suburban or a Camry.  We've been using it five years now. 

Hi JoeP, great posting. Congratulations on your success and I hope your bonus reflects it fully. Just a friendly word of advice from GO, sock as much of it away as you can for retirement, the clock moves faster the older you get, believe me. It has been my experience that money buys less and less as time marches on, so plan for inflation as well when calculating your resources for retirement.

Very familiar with Boston based JG and his ideas, one of the smarter ones in the game for sure. May I suggest again that you do not wed yourself to one person in the investment world, a variety of differing views is always helpful in the finance arena as in all things. Sooner or later they have a rough spell, and the good ones like JG are the first to admit it, rather than make excuses.

Congratulations as well on you driving a Prius, planting some beautiful trees and contributing in your honest modest way to being a doer, not just a blow hard. Every little effort counts, and not being a hypocrite is a wonderful trait as well. You would think the ones driving the SUV's and Camry's while preaching green would at least scale down to a Corolla or Prius when inundating the rest of us with their bull s.h.i.t. Alas, shame is not an attribute they possess.

As stated before JoeP, wear your censorship from the beer and drug cesspool of the demented as your badge of honor. It is like being denied a passport to enter North Korea, or Zimbabwe. Your word "Pathetic" to describe the acolytes of the Lout was kind and most generous. 

Stories of success and achievement are as welcome in that pit of goons as a red flag in a bull pen. How soon they forgot your years of contributions when you decided to ask a question, or stand apart from the acolytes and their worship. Such is the way of first grade school yard children, not educated men. 
 
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2014, 04:04:50 pm »
Thank you for the kind words and advice GO. I am especially thankful for all the valuable financial advice you've been kind enough to share with readers over the years.  You obviously have a great deal of experience and wisdom when it comes to this subject matter.

 

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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2014, 09:07:36 am »
Thank you for the kind words and advice GO. I am especially thankful for all the valuable financial advice you've been kind enough to share with readers over the years.  You obviously have a great deal of experience and wisdom when it comes to this subject matter.

Experience Yes, Wisdom, not so much.  :'(

Predicting the markets is a very "Humbling Experience" JoeP

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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2014, 06:53:18 pm »
For anyone interested, here's my most recent post attempt that was "blocked":


I want a scythe. 


Why not just go out and buy one?  Didn't you recently inherit some new wealth? OTOH, I seem to remember one of the admins purchasing a bicycle for someone.  Maybe this person will make a "scythe donation" just for you?

...end of post...

Seriously, while LD has many redeeming qualities, I once got very sick and f.u.c.k.i.n.g tired of reading his comments where he was basically begging for someone to just donate land to him.  Anyone that has put in the time and work to amass the wealth required to purchase such "land" doesn't typically just give it away to a stranger, do they? 
 

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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2014, 07:40:55 pm »
I left out a reminder that they are "selling" SUN as some sort of "investment opportunity".  In reality, it's more like a donation.  I suppose I might seriously consider making a donation like this if I had as much wealth as RE says he has. What is really holding the boy back? Just do it rich boy.